Friday, February 18, 2011
Battery Charging
OK one of the most common topics of conversation we have with our customers is the use of a battery charger on their boat.
Are they necessary?
Will they damage the battery?
What size do i need?
Should i leave it on all the time im at the dock even when im away from the boat?
Here's some tips:
Battery chargers are not all created equal, some are designed for intermittent use like what you might buy from the likes of Super Cheap or Repco.They are designed for charging the car battery overnight.
Some are designed to be left on for extended periods of time and they are the type we are interested in,in the marine application.
"Will that type of battery charger damage your battery"? No definitely not, our experience is a properly designed charger like a Ctek or Victron charger will extend the life of a battery over 2x what you might get from a battery with no "smart charge function".
What size of charger? Well the industry standard is 20% of your battery banks amp hour capacity. We say well yes but....If you are only looking for a trickle charger and never intend to use the charger to supplement the draw that may occur when you are using the battery driven loads on board then we say you can aim a little lower at about 3 to 5% with a proviso that you don't expect that charger to cover your entire battery loads should you stay aboard.You may need to supplement with a engine charge up routine.
OK so to recap: Get your self a decent marine smart battery charger.
Leave that charger on when ever your at the dock.
Size the charger appropriately depending on your application as above.
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Friday, June 4, 2010
Marine Refrigeration, Smarter.
One of the most neglected yet hardest working devices in your boat would be your refrigerator. When I was a kid going away on the family sail boat for the Christmas holidays we had no refrigeration. On our Raven 26 with a family of four we came up with all sorts of ingenious ideas for keeping food over those 4 to 6 weeks away(what ever happened to those long Christmas breaks?)We would get a tray of tomatoes green, only to have them all ripen at once.Dad would go to the bulk gasses depot with a chilly bin and come back with a solid block of dry ice to drop in the ice box in the fridge.I remember how cool it was to see all the vapour pouring out,but it never lasted long. Or the constant trips ashore for ice from the local shop (which we loved as we would always get a Fruju ice block at the same time.
Well fast forward to today and the average 40ft boat has a fridge and freezer that is able to keep food fresh as long as you you can at home. To get to this stage there has been a progression in refrigeration. From ice boxes to thermo-electric to the complex and maintenance dependant engine driven hold over(eutectic) systems to the new ultra efficient DC 12v-24v units that imitates what you have running your fridge/freezer at home.
Now more than ever we have been converting those engine driven units to the compact DC systems with the result that there are pipes, belts and other old bulky components in a pile on the dock and a compact, efficient, temperature stable fridge on board doing its job, quietly.
One of the main advantages with these DC units is the fridge can be left to run while you are away from the boat as your battery charger can easily replace what's being used, so you come to the boat and find everything cold and ready to go.
So if you want to get away from the constant maintenance, noisy engine running and the chore of emptying the fridge or freezer when you leave the boat then let us know. We will measure up and quote a DC fridge or freezer that won't put a chill on your budget just in your food.
Well fast forward to today and the average 40ft boat has a fridge and freezer that is able to keep food fresh as long as you you can at home. To get to this stage there has been a progression in refrigeration. From ice boxes to thermo-electric to the complex and maintenance dependant engine driven hold over(eutectic) systems to the new ultra efficient DC 12v-24v units that imitates what you have running your fridge/freezer at home.
Now more than ever we have been converting those engine driven units to the compact DC systems with the result that there are pipes, belts and other old bulky components in a pile on the dock and a compact, efficient, temperature stable fridge on board doing its job, quietly.
One of the main advantages with these DC units is the fridge can be left to run while you are away from the boat as your battery charger can easily replace what's being used, so you come to the boat and find everything cold and ready to go.
So if you want to get away from the constant maintenance, noisy engine running and the chore of emptying the fridge or freezer when you leave the boat then let us know. We will measure up and quote a DC fridge or freezer that won't put a chill on your budget just in your food.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
NEW GARMIN PLOTTER WILL BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF
We got to see the new Garmin 7000 series plotter the other day all i can say is wow there is really no comparison to any other unit out there its 2x faster with absolutely no lag when you zoom in or out or move across the chart its just instant.We have been stunned by how fast Garmin has been rolling out a newer, faster, better model but this is now something all together different.With doubling of processor speed you might expect a doubling of price however thats not happened sure its dearer than the previous units however its not done the big jump you might expect.
We will be showing this unit off as soon as we can get our hands on one.
We will be showing this unit off as soon as we can get our hands on one.
Sunday, March 7, 2010
DIY Boating Electrics Course in the Works
Will be setting up a course for DIY boaters on electrics in the Waaikawa Boating Club. It will be free and will assist people to do their own basic electrical work. Stay tuned for more details.
Was asked about Chargers and Galvanic Isolators So Here Goes
A Case for Using Marine Chargers and Galvanic Isolators.
A 12m launch has been in the marina for many years. Up until recently it's never had a problem with galvanic reaction on its underwater metal surfaces.
As advised correctly by the vessel's electrician, the owner decides to install a battery charger to his battery banks. Unfortunately, against the recommendation from his marine electrician, the owner chooses to save a few dollars and purchase a cheapy car charger from one of those automotive supply stores that specialise in budget priced car accessories.
Now armed with this new purchase the owner decides to simply run a lead into the boat from his shore power plug on the dock and proceeds to hook the aligator clips on to the battery. All done he thinks and it didnt even require him to have one of those “fancy” 3 step chargers he was advised to get.
He couldnt be more over the moon than the next time he comes to the boat and finds he hasn,t got flat batteries any more.
Six months go by and the boat is scheduled to be hauled by the local yard to have the bottom cleaned and antifouled. After the boat is power washed and blocked in the yard a more thorough inspection of the hull reveals a serious problem! First to be seen is what looks like burnt paint around each of the bronze thruhulls and then closer inspection also reveals, shock horror!, the thruhulls are erroded till there is almost nothing stopping them from popping straight out. The propeller also looks like worms have been passing through the bronze metal in the blades and the bronze has turned pink in colour.
At this stage the electrician recieves a call to hot foot it down here and explain why the boat he looks after has had such severe electrolysis! After a thorough check with no culprit found a few questions are asked of the owner. He says the only change electrically that's happened is the battery charger that's been fitted, which was incidentally $150 less than what was quoted by the electrican. After a quick test it's discovered that this charger has a ground isolation fault inside it and has created a ground connection between the shore and the boat's ground.
The saving of $150 has now resulted in a costing of thousands of dollars and, had the erroded thruhulls popped inward while the boat was in the water, would have certainly resulted in a sinking.
It's difficult to understand why some things in the marine industry are so expensive but if you look below the surface (excuse the pun) there is often a valid reason. One of these things is the marine battery charger. They may look no different than that cheapy Chinese brand but they really are not designed to do the same job and consequently cost more to make.
For instance, they are all designed for 3 step charging because they are left on the battery indefinitely. They are designed to be electrically isolated from boat ground and shore power ground. And to some degree they also have conformally coated circuit boards for water resistant ratings. Some are totally waterproof!
In the USA the regulating body, the American Boat And Yacht Council, which is made up of people from the marine trades and coastguard, stipulate the use of galvanic isolators on vessels wired to the dock mains power. These units have been around for many years and although not widely used here are vital for protecting your vessel from electrolysis from your boat to the dock through the shore power ground. They essentially allow the ground connection to exist between the dock and the boat for 230V AC protection in case of accidental electrocution but blocks the DC connection that would result in electrolysis or metal loss between boat and dock so common in marinas.
I hope this has not confused too many however it's becoming more important to protect that expensive investment than ever before and with the increasing proliferation of shore to boat connections in marinas its important to make sure you're armed with the information to protect your investment.
A 12m launch has been in the marina for many years. Up until recently it's never had a problem with galvanic reaction on its underwater metal surfaces.
As advised correctly by the vessel's electrician, the owner decides to install a battery charger to his battery banks. Unfortunately, against the recommendation from his marine electrician, the owner chooses to save a few dollars and purchase a cheapy car charger from one of those automotive supply stores that specialise in budget priced car accessories.
Now armed with this new purchase the owner decides to simply run a lead into the boat from his shore power plug on the dock and proceeds to hook the aligator clips on to the battery. All done he thinks and it didnt even require him to have one of those “fancy” 3 step chargers he was advised to get.
He couldnt be more over the moon than the next time he comes to the boat and finds he hasn,t got flat batteries any more.
Six months go by and the boat is scheduled to be hauled by the local yard to have the bottom cleaned and antifouled. After the boat is power washed and blocked in the yard a more thorough inspection of the hull reveals a serious problem! First to be seen is what looks like burnt paint around each of the bronze thruhulls and then closer inspection also reveals, shock horror!, the thruhulls are erroded till there is almost nothing stopping them from popping straight out. The propeller also looks like worms have been passing through the bronze metal in the blades and the bronze has turned pink in colour.
At this stage the electrician recieves a call to hot foot it down here and explain why the boat he looks after has had such severe electrolysis! After a thorough check with no culprit found a few questions are asked of the owner. He says the only change electrically that's happened is the battery charger that's been fitted, which was incidentally $150 less than what was quoted by the electrican. After a quick test it's discovered that this charger has a ground isolation fault inside it and has created a ground connection between the shore and the boat's ground.
The saving of $150 has now resulted in a costing of thousands of dollars and, had the erroded thruhulls popped inward while the boat was in the water, would have certainly resulted in a sinking.
It's difficult to understand why some things in the marine industry are so expensive but if you look below the surface (excuse the pun) there is often a valid reason. One of these things is the marine battery charger. They may look no different than that cheapy Chinese brand but they really are not designed to do the same job and consequently cost more to make.
For instance, they are all designed for 3 step charging because they are left on the battery indefinitely. They are designed to be electrically isolated from boat ground and shore power ground. And to some degree they also have conformally coated circuit boards for water resistant ratings. Some are totally waterproof!
In the USA the regulating body, the American Boat And Yacht Council, which is made up of people from the marine trades and coastguard, stipulate the use of galvanic isolators on vessels wired to the dock mains power. These units have been around for many years and although not widely used here are vital for protecting your vessel from electrolysis from your boat to the dock through the shore power ground. They essentially allow the ground connection to exist between the dock and the boat for 230V AC protection in case of accidental electrocution but blocks the DC connection that would result in electrolysis or metal loss between boat and dock so common in marinas.
I hope this has not confused too many however it's becoming more important to protect that expensive investment than ever before and with the increasing proliferation of shore to boat connections in marinas its important to make sure you're armed with the information to protect your investment.
Welcome to the Marine Electrical Advisor
Welcome to the blog that will attempt to help you with those marine electrical questions ,problems or assist the do it your selfer who is stuck.
A little about my self...I am a 45yr old Marine Electrican who has been working on boat electrics for the last 23yrs. I own Marine Electrical Solutions Ltd, a two man business (myself and apprentice) in Waikawa Marina, Picton. I'm married with two great kids.
What I aim to provide here is a place where ideas can be bounced around and help provided to those in need with their boats electrical and electronics.
I can't say I've seen everything that goes on boats but I would say I have had a diverse range of experience working on boats in New Zealand, Australia, Bermuda and Spain.Ive worked on 10ft dinghys to 250ft luxury yachts in the Med. If you want to follow this blog I'm sure you will learn alot and hopefully I will get a chance to help some people sort out their electrical difficulties. So here goes.
A little about my self...I am a 45yr old Marine Electrican who has been working on boat electrics for the last 23yrs. I own Marine Electrical Solutions Ltd, a two man business (myself and apprentice) in Waikawa Marina, Picton. I'm married with two great kids.
What I aim to provide here is a place where ideas can be bounced around and help provided to those in need with their boats electrical and electronics.
I can't say I've seen everything that goes on boats but I would say I have had a diverse range of experience working on boats in New Zealand, Australia, Bermuda and Spain.Ive worked on 10ft dinghys to 250ft luxury yachts in the Med. If you want to follow this blog I'm sure you will learn alot and hopefully I will get a chance to help some people sort out their electrical difficulties. So here goes.
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